{"id":1138,"date":"2021-05-22T00:26:18","date_gmt":"2021-05-21T22:26:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/?p=1138"},"modified":"2021-05-23T02:04:58","modified_gmt":"2021-05-23T00:04:58","slug":"10khz-40mhz-ad9834-scalar-network-analyzer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/?p=1138","title":{"rendered":"10kHz-40MHz AD9834 Scalar Network Analyzer"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Test and upgrade<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>As some people know, I buy all the analyzers made in China that are compatible with DL4JAL software (because they will also work with SNASharp).<br>This way I can verify that it works and also write a SNASharp configuration file for that model.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I bought this analyzer available for a few months. It is indicated as being usable from 10kHz to 40MHz.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/seller.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"423\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/seller.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1139\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/seller.png 640w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/seller-300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/seller-454x300.png 454w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>At the reception I made this high resolution photography , it is easier for me to zoom on an image to determine the schematic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"552\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-1024x552.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1140\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-1024x552.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-768x414.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-1536x828.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-2048x1104.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/IMG_5707_recadre-500x270.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I quickly measured a quartz filter, and the results were catastrophic, I deduced that the analyzer did not implement correct impedance matching on his ports.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I then observed the output circuit of the tracking generator, and realized that there was a big design error. The output consists of an OPA695 operational amplifier (with feedback loop) followed by a 3dB attenuator. This configuration can only offer an output impedance around 18 Ohms, far from the expected 50 Ohms .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_output.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"773\" height=\"582\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_output.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1142\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_output.jpg 773w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_output-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_output-768x578.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_output-398x300.jpg 398w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 773px) 100vw, 773px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Output of tracking generator<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I then observed the input circuit and there too there is a big mistake. We have a 3dB attenuator followed by the input of the logarithmic amplifier AD8307. The AD8307 offers an input impedance of 1100 Ohms, the consequence is that the input port offers an impedance of about 240 Ohms, we are also very far from the expected 50 Ohms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_Input.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"739\" height=\"527\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_Input.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1144\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_Input.jpg 739w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_Input-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_Input-421x300.jpg 421w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 739px) 100vw, 739px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Analyzer input<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Fixing the issues<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>For the output it was quite simple, I removed the two 300R attenuator resistors and replaced the 18 Ohms series resistor by a 47 Ohms resistor, so we have an output that offers a ~50 Ohms broadband impedance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_output.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"764\" height=\"801\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_output.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_output.jpg 764w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_output-286x300.jpg 286w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 764px) 100vw, 764px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Tracking generator output impedance  fixing<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For the input I had to do a little math. I wanted to change the minimum of components, I just replaced the first 300R resistor of the input attenuator by a 62 Ohms resistor. This offers almost 50 Ohms in broadband (49.4 Ohms measured)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_Input.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"798\" height=\"716\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_Input.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_Input.jpg 798w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_Input-300x269.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_Input-768x689.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/10khz_40MHz_upgrade_Input-334x300.jpg 334w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 798px) 100vw, 798px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Upgraded input, The resistor was directly soldered on the SMA socket because I damaged the PCB  when unsoldering the 300R resistor.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Test and conclusions<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Port matching is ok and the analyzer keeps 82dB of dynamic range on the low frequencies and 74dB on the high frequencies, which is very correct.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"656\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-1024x656.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-1024x656.png 1024w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-768x492.png 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image-468x300.png 468w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/image.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>S21 with SNASharp Raw mode ( uncalibrated)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The linearity is also very good, here up to 60dB.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"656\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity-1024x656.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1149\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity-1024x656.png 1024w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity-768x492.png 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity-468x300.png 468w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/linearity.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Linearity check<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"656\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter-1024x656.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter-1024x656.png 1024w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter-768x492.png 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter-468x300.png 468w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/filter.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Mesure of a 4MHz SSB filter<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"656\" src=\"http:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF-1024x656.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1151\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF-1024x656.png 1024w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF-768x492.png 768w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF-468x300.png 468w, https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/LPF.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Mesure of an 7.5MHz LPF<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once modified, this 20\u20ac analyzer is perfectly usable for HF bands. My tests indicated that it could make measurements from 1kHz to 40MHz. The generator provides a fairly clean signal, the harmonics are at -48dBc (H2) and -50dBc (H3).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>David, F4HTQ 2021\/05\/22<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Test and upgrade As some people know, I buy all the analyzers made in China that are compatible with DL4JAL software (because they will also work with SNASharp).This way I can verify that it works and also write a SNASharp &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/?p=1138\">Continuer la lecture <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18,88,90,17,1],"tags":[81],"class_list":["post-1138","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elec","category-mesure","category-sna","category-tech","category-uncategorized","tag-snasharp"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1138","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1138"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1138\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1165,"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1138\/revisions\/1165"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1138"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1138"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alloza.eu\/david\/WordPress3\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1138"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}